CME Impact prediction update - severe storm!
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Ulrich Rieth
CME Impact prediction update - severe storm!
Erstmal ein paar Wort von Cary Oler vom STD, die er ins STD Forum geschrieben hat:
"In case any of you are interested, the CME impact prediction covering the second X-class flare of yesterday is now available. We were
waiting for the LASCO data to arrive. Now that it has and we've completed a preliminary analysis, the page has been updated (time is
short, so getting it out is important). See: www.spacew.com/cme
We're more concerned about this oncoming event than we were several hours ago, now that the LASCO data is available. Consider
this a HEADS-UP warning - just in case we're right. Although I could very possibly eat my own words (and probably will), I believe that
SEC and the USAF may have seriously underestimated the potential size of the activity that is headed our way."
Event #48 - 26 October 2003
Issued: 16:30 UTC, 27 October 2003
SOURCE EVENT
Class X1.2/2N Flare in Region 484 at 18:19 UTC on 26 October 2003
Type II: 950 km/sec
Estimated LASCO-derived Plane of Sky Velocity: ~1550 km/sec (west)
ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL OF SHOCK AT EARTH
Estimated Impact Window: 19:00 UTC on 27 October to 15:00 UTC on 28 October
Preferred Predicted Impact Time: 03:00 UTC, 28 October 2003
Estimated Shock Strength (0=Weakest, 9=Strongest): 6
Predicted Behavior of IMF at Shock Impact
At Shock Impact, the Interplanetary Magnetic Field is predicted to initially turn:
SOUTHWARD (and mixed)
EVENT #48 NOTES:
SOHO data received over the last few hours indicates that although much of the mass associated with this coronal mass ejection was directed westward, there was in fact a faint full halo signature visible in differenced imagery. The velocity of this disturbance is very high and has the potential to reach the Earth during the early part of 28 October.
Given the very close time of arrival estimates for Events 48 and 47 (see below), there is a concern that the two disturbances could combine and result in a stronger than originally anticipated disturbance. We believe there is a very real possibility for periods of severe geomagnetic storming associated with these two disturbances, particularly within the first 12 hours after the first disturbance arrives. The situation is too complex to model reliably.
"In case any of you are interested, the CME impact prediction covering the second X-class flare of yesterday is now available. We were
waiting for the LASCO data to arrive. Now that it has and we've completed a preliminary analysis, the page has been updated (time is
short, so getting it out is important). See: www.spacew.com/cme
We're more concerned about this oncoming event than we were several hours ago, now that the LASCO data is available. Consider
this a HEADS-UP warning - just in case we're right. Although I could very possibly eat my own words (and probably will), I believe that
SEC and the USAF may have seriously underestimated the potential size of the activity that is headed our way."
Event #48 - 26 October 2003
Issued: 16:30 UTC, 27 October 2003
SOURCE EVENT
Class X1.2/2N Flare in Region 484 at 18:19 UTC on 26 October 2003
Type II: 950 km/sec
Estimated LASCO-derived Plane of Sky Velocity: ~1550 km/sec (west)
ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL OF SHOCK AT EARTH
Estimated Impact Window: 19:00 UTC on 27 October to 15:00 UTC on 28 October
Preferred Predicted Impact Time: 03:00 UTC, 28 October 2003
Estimated Shock Strength (0=Weakest, 9=Strongest): 6
Predicted Behavior of IMF at Shock Impact
At Shock Impact, the Interplanetary Magnetic Field is predicted to initially turn:
SOUTHWARD (and mixed)
EVENT #48 NOTES:
SOHO data received over the last few hours indicates that although much of the mass associated with this coronal mass ejection was directed westward, there was in fact a faint full halo signature visible in differenced imagery. The velocity of this disturbance is very high and has the potential to reach the Earth during the early part of 28 October.
Given the very close time of arrival estimates for Events 48 and 47 (see below), there is a concern that the two disturbances could combine and result in a stronger than originally anticipated disturbance. We believe there is a very real possibility for periods of severe geomagnetic storming associated with these two disturbances, particularly within the first 12 hours after the first disturbance arrives. The situation is too complex to model reliably.
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lutz schenk
Na, es wird doch langsam ;-) Allerdings das Timing
ist ja demnach überhaupt nicht so genial 
Bleibt nur zu hoffen das er doch noch schnneler oder etwas langsamer war.
Gruß Lutz
Bleibt nur zu hoffen das er doch noch schnneler oder etwas langsamer war.
Gruß Lutz
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Ulrich Rieth
Also PL von 5-7 ist auch nicht zu verachten...
...so ähnlich wie 06.11.2001...und daran denke ich schon den ganzen Tag, nur den Nebel, den muss ich nicht mehr haben.
Gruß
Ulrich
Gruß
Ulrich
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Peter Kuklok
CME Diffs
Hi,
: there was in fact a faint full halo signature visible in
: differenced imagery.
das würde ich mir mal gerne auch anschauen. Kennt jemand zufälligerweise einen Link mit den entsprechenden Diffs?
Meine Links sind da leider nicht aktuell...und die Diffs beim STD sind wiederum zu aktuell
Grüße
Peter
: there was in fact a faint full halo signature visible in
: differenced imagery.
das würde ich mir mal gerne auch anschauen. Kennt jemand zufälligerweise einen Link mit den entsprechenden Diffs?
Meine Links sind da leider nicht aktuell...und die Diffs beim STD sind wiederum zu aktuell
Grüße
Peter
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Oswald Dörwang
Re: Also PL von 5-7 ist auch nicht zu verachten...
Hi Ulrich,
die Zeit wurde doch um eine Stunde zurückgedreht.
Wär dann nicht PL evtl von 4 - 7 Uhr zu sehen?
Mit fragenden Grüssen
Oswald
: ...so ähnlich wie 06.11.2001...und daran denke ich schon den ganzen
: Tag, nur den Nebel, den muss ich nicht mehr haben.
: Gruß
: Ulrich
die Zeit wurde doch um eine Stunde zurückgedreht.
Wär dann nicht PL evtl von 4 - 7 Uhr zu sehen?
Mit fragenden Grüssen
Oswald
: ...so ähnlich wie 06.11.2001...und daran denke ich schon den ganzen
: Tag, nur den Nebel, den muss ich nicht mehr haben.
: Gruß
: Ulrich
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Peter Kuklok
STD - MIDDLE LATITUDE WATCH UPDATED
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MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY WATCH
WATCH UPDATED: 17:00 UTC, 27 OCTOBER 2003
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** UPDATED TO INCLUDE NEW PREDICTIVE INFORMATION **
VALID BEGINNING AT: 19:00 UTC ON 27 OCTOBER
VALID UNTIL: 23:00 UTC (7 pm EDT) ON 29 OCTOBER
HIGH RISK PERIOD: 28 OCTOBER (UTC DAYS)
MODERATE RISK PERIOD: 27 - 29 OCTOBER
PREDICTED ACTIVITY INDICES: 20, 50, 30, 25 (27 OCTOBER - 30 OCTOBER)
POTENTIAL MAGNITUDE OF MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY: MODERATE TO HIGH
POTENTIAL DURATION OF THIS ACTIVITY: MAIN BELT = 18 TO 24 HOURS
MINOR BELT = 24 TO 36 HOURS
ESTIMATED OPTIMUM OBSERVING CONDITIONS: NEAR LOCAL MIDNIGHT
EXPECTED LUNAR INTERFERENCE: NONE
OVERALL OPPORTUNITY FOR OBSERVATIONS FROM MIDDLE LATITUDES: FAIR TO GOOD
AURORAL ACTIVITY *MAY* BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM...
OREGON TO SOUTHERN IDAHO TO WYOMING TO NORTHERN NEBRASKA TO IOWA TO
NORTHERN ILLINOIS TO NORTHERN INDIANA TO OHIO TO PENNSYLVANIA TO NEW
JERSEY.
ACTIVITY *MAY* ALSO BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM...
EXTREME NORTHERN FRANCE TO BELGIUM TO CENTRAL GERMANY TO NORTHERN POLAND
TO LITHUANIA TO LATVIA TO NORTH-CENTRAL RUSSIA.
NEW ZEALAND AND EXTREME SOUTHERN (PARTICULARLY SOUTHEASTERN) REGIONS OF
AUSTRALIA MAY ALSO OBSERVE PERIODS OF ACTIVITY.
SYNOPSIS...
UPDATE: Analysis of the second major coronal mass ejection observed on Sunday
reveals that mass from that disturbance is directed Earthward, possibly at a
fairly high velocity. If true, impact of this CME could arrive in the early
UTC hours of 28 October (target time at the present time is ~03:00 UTC on 28
October). The arrival of this disturbance could result in periods of strong
geomagnetic and auroral storm activity if this prediction is correct. Our
primary concern is the possible near-simultaneous impact of both coronal mass
ejection disturbances from the two X-class flares of Sunday. If this occurs,
predictions of lower activity will probably prove incorrect.
This watch will remain valid through 23:00 UTC (7 pm EDT) on
29 October. It will then be updated or allowed to expire. For updated
information, visit: http://www.spacew.com/aurora/forum.html. For real-time
plots of current activity, visit: http://www.spacew.com/plots.html
PLEASE REPORT OBSERVATIONS OF AURORAL ACTIVITY TO:
http://www.spacew.com/submitsighting.html
** End of Watch **
MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY WATCH
WATCH UPDATED: 17:00 UTC, 27 OCTOBER 2003
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
** UPDATED TO INCLUDE NEW PREDICTIVE INFORMATION **
VALID BEGINNING AT: 19:00 UTC ON 27 OCTOBER
VALID UNTIL: 23:00 UTC (7 pm EDT) ON 29 OCTOBER
HIGH RISK PERIOD: 28 OCTOBER (UTC DAYS)
MODERATE RISK PERIOD: 27 - 29 OCTOBER
PREDICTED ACTIVITY INDICES: 20, 50, 30, 25 (27 OCTOBER - 30 OCTOBER)
POTENTIAL MAGNITUDE OF MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY: MODERATE TO HIGH
POTENTIAL DURATION OF THIS ACTIVITY: MAIN BELT = 18 TO 24 HOURS
MINOR BELT = 24 TO 36 HOURS
ESTIMATED OPTIMUM OBSERVING CONDITIONS: NEAR LOCAL MIDNIGHT
EXPECTED LUNAR INTERFERENCE: NONE
OVERALL OPPORTUNITY FOR OBSERVATIONS FROM MIDDLE LATITUDES: FAIR TO GOOD
AURORAL ACTIVITY *MAY* BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM...
OREGON TO SOUTHERN IDAHO TO WYOMING TO NORTHERN NEBRASKA TO IOWA TO
NORTHERN ILLINOIS TO NORTHERN INDIANA TO OHIO TO PENNSYLVANIA TO NEW
JERSEY.
ACTIVITY *MAY* ALSO BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM...
EXTREME NORTHERN FRANCE TO BELGIUM TO CENTRAL GERMANY TO NORTHERN POLAND
TO LITHUANIA TO LATVIA TO NORTH-CENTRAL RUSSIA.
NEW ZEALAND AND EXTREME SOUTHERN (PARTICULARLY SOUTHEASTERN) REGIONS OF
AUSTRALIA MAY ALSO OBSERVE PERIODS OF ACTIVITY.
SYNOPSIS...
UPDATE: Analysis of the second major coronal mass ejection observed on Sunday
reveals that mass from that disturbance is directed Earthward, possibly at a
fairly high velocity. If true, impact of this CME could arrive in the early
UTC hours of 28 October (target time at the present time is ~03:00 UTC on 28
October). The arrival of this disturbance could result in periods of strong
geomagnetic and auroral storm activity if this prediction is correct. Our
primary concern is the possible near-simultaneous impact of both coronal mass
ejection disturbances from the two X-class flares of Sunday. If this occurs,
predictions of lower activity will probably prove incorrect.
This watch will remain valid through 23:00 UTC (7 pm EDT) on
29 October. It will then be updated or allowed to expire. For updated
information, visit: http://www.spacew.com/aurora/forum.html. For real-time
plots of current activity, visit: http://www.spacew.com/plots.html
PLEASE REPORT OBSERVATIONS OF AURORAL ACTIVITY TO:
http://www.spacew.com/submitsighting.html
** End of Watch **
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Heiko
Ich will ja kein Spielverderber sein, aber *LINK*
hat jemand schon mal einen Blick auf die Wetterkarte geworfen ?
Es kommt ja meistens was dazwischen, bei mir im Moment die Arbeit, bei allen anderen wirds wohl puenktlich zum Eindunkeln am Dienstag Abend zumachen ......
(Ich weiss, der Oberpessimist ist eigentlich Lutz)
kurzer Gruss Heiko
Es kommt ja meistens was dazwischen, bei mir im Moment die Arbeit, bei allen anderen wirds wohl puenktlich zum Eindunkeln am Dienstag Abend zumachen ......
(Ich weiss, der Oberpessimist ist eigentlich Lutz)
kurzer Gruss Heiko
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Heiko
Und am EPAM sieht man auch noch nichts *LINK*
wie hoch ist die Chance, dass der Impact noch vor der Daemmerung Morgen frueh kommt ? In der Regel faengt der EPAM-Plot ja so 12 Stunden vorher an zu steigen oder ist diese "Regel" im Moment ausser Kraft ?
GGGGruss Heiko
GGGGruss Heiko
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Ulrich Rieth
Zeitumstellung schon drin
...die Shockfront braucht ja noch ein paar Minuten bis zur Erde, wenn sie erstmal am ACE aufgetaucht ist.
Bei der erwarteten Reisezeit sind das zwar nur noch 30min, aber viel macht das auch nicht. Na vielleicht PL von 4:30 bis 7 Uhr.
Gruß
Ulrich
Bei der erwarteten Reisezeit sind das zwar nur noch 30min, aber viel macht das auch nicht. Na vielleicht PL von 4:30 bis 7 Uhr.
Gruß
Ulrich
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Oswald Dörwang
Re: Dankeschön für die Auskunft Ulrich. *NM*
Re: Dankeschön für die Auskunft Ulrich. *NM*
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Ulrich Rieth
EPAM Regel zieht so nicht...
...Du musst Dir mal den längsten EPAM 7d Plot ansehen.
Da siehst Du, dass wir uns schon auf einem irre hohen Level befinden, von dem aus es bis 10^5 nur noch ca. 3 und bis 10^6 nur noch etwa 6 Stunden dauert.
Also ist vom aktuellen Stand her noch jeder Impakt nach Mitternacht drin.
Gruß
Ulrich
PS.: Was die Wettersachen angeht, schau einfach nicht hin, kannst es eh nicht ändern.
Da siehst Du, dass wir uns schon auf einem irre hohen Level befinden, von dem aus es bis 10^5 nur noch ca. 3 und bis 10^6 nur noch etwa 6 Stunden dauert.
Also ist vom aktuellen Stand her noch jeder Impakt nach Mitternacht drin.
Gruß
Ulrich
PS.: Was die Wettersachen angeht, schau einfach nicht hin, kannst es eh nicht ändern.
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Ulrich Rieth
SEC kneift mal wieder...
aus dem heutigen Report:
IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is
expected to be unsettled to active. Two partial halo CME events
associated with X-class flares on 26 October may cause geomagnetic
storming on days one and two.
IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is
expected to be unsettled to active. Two partial halo CME events
associated with X-class flares on 26 October may cause geomagnetic
storming on days one and two.
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